Meeting Notes 2025 07 15

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These are the notes from the The 822th Meeting of Noisebridge.

Date	2025 07 15
Note-takers	Jet
Moderators	Mark

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Introductions

Mark - Secretary, Games
Oliver - new, never been to a meeting. Do a lot of sewing and such! I like Maps
David - Game Designer, hacker. I <3 NB
Ken - standing because your back is hurting. building the whole goddamn place. we neeed more insulation and installing more drywall. 
Eric - Helping Ken. Doing Music, learning coding from anyone around. 3d printing and las3er. Hi!
Gwen. trying to do a consumer free repair clininc
Jet - Robotics engineer. I like helping out w/ infra around here. AMA Rust, Drones, Flying, F1.
Vidia - just joined here trying to build new things to destroy with your dog.
Chris - Likes embedded systems and speed skating
Trevor - been here less than a month, jright now trying to do holophraic tech *shows off super cool holograpm*. trying to make 3d music videos and audio visual programs. music. 3d building sewing. AV  programmable with leds and stuff.
Loren - Talk to about software infa on monday. noisebridge infra! charger stuff! Ask him about and give him cool project ideas
WEZY - Climbs skyscrapers. head floss. pen testing. reverse engineering, ios mac hacking. swift and objectiev C. revers engineering ip8 . apple get fucked. 
Nicholas - Noise bridge alot. touch designer and audio vis . laser cutter sewing and was a fasion designer.
Foo - design developer online coding. music .woodworking sewing pcp (php?). first week here!
Elle - sewing and organizing. fundraising for NB. likes to see the space lats into the furture. sewing and lights. working on a fasion show whose into lights and burners. Trevor is interested. Get into contact with Elle if that sounds interesting!
JD - lots of cool stuff.
Elan - currently biking. Viva la Revolution

Short announcements and events

Ken: We NEED insulation!

Jet: Open Sauce -- who's going? (Jet) This weekend.

Mark: California Extreme -- Pinball museum in San Jose. This weekend, cheaper than.

Mark: We put in our Maker Faire application (In process. We'll know in a couple weeks)!

Elan: every Tuesday night is "bike and brew" in the city, in case you want to skip the NB meeting for something fun!

Aug 10th: theintersection of Art and Technology meeting no. 12! People give presentations on personal projects. Free event at the Internet Archive bldg https://lu.ma/rtbqx9kp

Elle: class TOMORROW on Crochet, please post my Social Media requests!

Also, "How to embroider", taught by Nick this Saturday at 2pm?

Jeans class, how to mend and repair. Friday evening. 6 o'clock ish.

5 Minutes of Fame THIS THURSDAY @ 8PM!

Everyone interested in cameras and mics and running the noisebridge social media channels talk to Mark

Sewing Yard Sale has been pushed into next month! Too much going on right now. Though... Organizing Meeting happening 12 NOON on SATURDAY! Be there to help continue plan the Yard Sale!

JD: communication from nest works cnc product launch and donate a couple cnc machines in late july. tbd to set a date for exactly when. it;s postponed. 4 in the afternoon is a meeting. we probably will give them some press in exchange fro the cnc. we will test and they will demos strate. 3 multithousand dollar cnc machines. They get the sense they're not in town. We need to figure out a space.

Excellence

Our One Rule is to Be Excellent to Each Other. (Give a quick, 1-3 sentence summary.)

Jet: Treating everybody kindly, and respecting the space, and making it better every time you come. And the same for every space everywhere.

What does that mean? Please see our page on excellence https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Excellence!

Brief Kudos

Recent examples of excellent participation, say 3, unless the passion moves you.

Nick - good job on the party on Friday! Had a great time with the music and such

And generally to everyone for being so wonderful.

To Ken and Brian for proceeding forth with the shop wall!

Daniel and others for doing trash last night

David for pausing his laesr cutt for the meeting!

New members Nick and matty for applying for membership and being excellent members who deserve it.

zachi for TA'ing last minute at the sewing 101 class

person who elle doesn't remember who helped when the class began

Nick who does space bridge: fixed one of the sewing machines and ifxed the surger. He has a skill in fixing sewing macihne

JD: For the electric everything! it's alot and thank you for helping not burn down noisebridge

Elle: Elle has been working hard for sewing and planning events for it and cleaning the room and all kinds of stuff. *ken whistels*

Zoning & Permitting Standing Item

Status this week? Helpful broad asks to the community? NB city bureaucracy WG -- JD & Alice, among others.

Dry wall ins going up. The whole thing is the change the change of use permit when we moved in originally. a 2003 violation for not submitting a change of use permit. We are in the process of doing all of our improvments as part of our permits. We are working ot show that we're legal and up to code. the original violation given to us was from 2023, we have a timeline to close that violation before we start facing heavy fines . 60 days from june 17. we have 2 days to finish our permit for tenative improvements which includes additional improvements like electrical and mechanical. Rick the contractor is working on these permits for us. The guy whose inspecting the woodshop wall is the one who will confirm all our permits are complete. once he confirms its all good he can close our change of use permit and well begolden. if that doesn' thappen in 30 days we cdouldh ave a 5000 dollar fine and every 30 days we'll get another 5000 dollar fine.

Solution: complete all construction on the woodshop wall. finish all electrical except for the mechanical. the mechanical needs a drawing which costs 3,800 dollars. JD talks to the tover the enforcement guys. and if we get all the rest done and we get issues the work for the mechanical and once we start work on the mechanical it'd be easy for them to give us a 30 day extension on all the mechanical which would give us another 30 days.

We don't have the luxery of dilly-ying or dallying. Electrical will be done today and tommaroow. conduit strait to the woodshop and they have to work with drying installation. we signed the contract to hire the electrical engineering. need to give the engineer their down payment on their work. and hope fully not too long on gettnig thir work down. the hard rock is how long it takes for other people to do their work and that's what'll put us up onto that rock. We don't have much time, we need to move or else we'll be facing much greater fines than it would take to just take care of it.

We need the dry wall up on the wall and we need the inspection. First step is insulation. We need ductwork. 2 fans that the electricitino will run power. running a vent up the back of the building that is as far away from the neightbors the adjacent partners build. Hoping it wont go on 274's building. Matt tripoli helping w/ that. we need to close out the wall permit. we need to close as many of these boxes as we can.

Ken says we continue this next week. He actually means to talk again after we get more done.

Ken is the one overlooking the project but noone is putting up the drywall. nvm Ken is putting up the second layer but we also need a third layer of drywall up. second layer is almost done.

JD is emphasizing for everyone, If Ken needs help, HELP HIM!!!!

We need poeople around to help KEN to do this project. We have the skill but we could need more manpower. We need things to be up to code though so don't just go do it without doing it with an advisory person like Ken

Ken is meeting brian tomarrow at noon. We'd like to know ahead of time to when ken is coming so that we can all help him.

Not too many chefs in the kitchen. Ken needs insulation. the Jeans was serious and we could use jeans. but this is unlikely to happen from Mark. Elle says this could be possible.

The bath insulation. noone wants to touch with bare hands. This is just a way to make it more soundproof. We shoul'd wait for the pink insulation is it's going to take more time. If we include the insulation it will improve the soundproofing.

Big C Consensus Items

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Consensus Items

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Discussion Items

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Item prompts should follow the format: (== header with number) ==) From/Raised by: [your name here] Seeking [decision/outcome/advice/something else] On topic: [topic]

Discussion Item 1

From/Raised by: Elan Seeking Question Answered On topic: Pre-paying of membership dues

Seems like bc there is concern about budget and stuff. Is there any way we can advance dues to help Noisebridge with liquidity.

Treasurer: We can do things. Don't want to make a policy. Don't want to keep track of stuff. We can coordinate on an individual basis. Maybe we can make software that supports this kind of advance-payment. Let's work yet.

Discussion Item 2

From/Raised by: Elle/Jet? Seeking On topic: Open Sauce After-Party Planning

On Sunday after the event (the 20th) we are planning on bringin folks from the vent back to NB to have an after-party. Want to indoctrinate event-goers into NB. :) Potluck-style event! Lets bring hackers together. Not trying to trash the place, but have a fun time!

Suggestion: Have a policy of "suggested donation, but no one turned away for lack of funds"

We talked about having a card with a QR code that people can share/show to ppl

Elle: suggets having card point to a partiful invite to the party. And also put the partiful invite on NB discord!

Ken: will there also be a donation QR code?

Mark and Sam will be working on that thing?

Mark and Sam (and Jet) should work on the partiful invite card. AND new donation info cards/flyers. Loren suggests using Luma bc it handles donations.

Discussion Item 3

From/Raised by: Mark Seeking On topic: Locker Audit

There is a channel called "locker audit" A working group wehre we've been talking about it

been talkgin about posting a note on each locker. been put up but will be redone.

They will be notes put inside each locker that will have instructions on how to claim each locker. numebrs on each locker aswell. contact forumn inside. notice for change on the outside. a box for people to drop those forms into

Give people time to fill them out until 1-2 months time to comply. Figuring a way to collect monehy for each locker group. Donations or straight up charge. a poll should be put up on what should be on a locker tag.

Jet: Locker *should* be a charge. "Strict", like Membership dues. It is a valuable resource at the space. It would incentivize members to care about their usage of said resource. I was suggesting we go even higher on the charges than suggested in discord. Like in the $20-30 per month range even.

Ken: what we we call the locker squatter time period?

We were thinking 1-2 months for a normal locker.

Do we anticipate "refreshing" events to exist quarterly.

We should have the occasional audit / check. we need to establish a normal locker vs a long term locker for a group at noisebridge. there are some that are shared that are indefinately, such as active active guild and working groups.

Personal lockers for NB projects maybe should have the fees waived, bc they are for things that are actually contributing to our space and community. They should still be registered w/ person or guild, but not need to pay.

David: is it fair for someone to pay the fee continuously to effectively "squat a locker" even though they don't really actively use it?

Ken: make the payment for the membership need to happen before payment for a locker.

Only Members can get lockers? Multiple people disagree.

Mayyyybe a "sponsorhip" form a member, as a compromise, but not really sold on that either...

Lets get a "system"-less as possible. No designing systems please. Locker-auditing-interested members please apply yourselves to the task by discussing in locker-audit channel.

Note: as soon as we put a price on something, it does make people feel entitled to thing. Doesn't necessarily feed the ecosystem of community enaged hackers. Want to press for systems that help bind the community more in social ways. Less on "noisebridge as a space to conduct transactions"

Discussion Item 4

From/Raised by: Elle Seeking On topic: Building Purchase Idea

Been poking around, looking for funds in general. There are funds/programs to assist orgs like NB in purchasing/renting bldgs. Had a meeting this afternoon with one such org. They are interested in coming by and meeting NB/it's people.

Point is, we had thought about bldg purchase 5 years ago. Price of real-estate is dropping currently.

If people want to meet with this group, maybe talk with Elle. They might be coming to a Tues meeting at some point.

REAL ESTATES REALIZE REAL EYES

Maybe SF Office of Economic Workforce Development might help out.

EHR: I think a "capital campaign" would be a really good idea.

As a general note about fundraising efforts, and how to contribute:

   https://discord.com/channels/720514857094348840/948254558063317053/1393755685845602354

Discussion Item 5

From/Raised by: Elle Seeking On topic: Something about Sewing

Just wanted to let ppl know that we do have machines that work. The cost for repairing the two Juki's. It would be about $525 to replace the motors. Though there's a chepaer option. Or an even more cheaper option if we wanted to cannibalize other motors from NB. Anyone interested in helping with that effort, please put a note in the sewing channel! We could talk about it/do those repairs on Saturday while we plan the yard sale.

Jd: some question about the motors

Elle answers...

Some discussion about motors, safety, flammability of the room etc ensues as people shuffle around and leave the meeting...